He's drawn large because he's a leader character. Devastates them right in the mouth. This scale was carried over to their vehicle forms, resulting in differently-sized cars that, based on real world measurements, should be virtually the same size. Likewise, Metroplex's internal workings are portrayed as much smaller than they'd realistically have to be. However, the considerable and varied scale problems of Transformers still merit description. The original G1 Optimus Prime toy also has scale issues. In fact when the Combaticons form him in Chapter X they are clearly swelling in size. The Supreme size toy was so large it could not interact with most of the other toys from the line (based on the cartoon, he's maaaaybe in scale with Nightscream and Air Attack Optimus Primal, the latter of whom wasn't released until three years later). Further, Cheetor and Tigatron's toys use the same (Deluxe) mold, but Tigatron is a head taller in the show (both because tigers are larger than cheetahs, and because Cheetor is "a kid"). Between the Great War and the Beast Era, the majority of the Cybertronian race considerably downgraded in size at the Great Upgrade. Nevertheless, if one assumes that most vehicle altmodes are intended for human-sized passengers, comparing toys such as Chromedome with Lightspeed suggests the scale problem continues. Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner? Basicly what the tital says, its the Transfromers Prime Height Chart, its just a rough guess, but it holds most of the TFP and TFPBH cast hight and you could also use this for the TFA and TF-Films Rated: Fiction K - English - Words: 445 - Reviews: 9 - Favs: 18 - Follows: 8 - Published: 5/16/2013 - id: 9297736 Height Chart | Transformers Prime: RP Transformers Prime: RP Transformers Prime: RP OOC Fun stuff Height Chart Members Search We are a literate, intermediate to advanced AU Transformers RPG Based off of the first season of TFP with dashes of other incarnations sprinkled here or there. In toy form, Lockdown's small alternate mode means you can either set his Deluxe-sized toy against a Voyager-or-smaller Prime for correct robot mode scale, or against a Leader-sized Prime toy for correct vehicle mode scale - but obviously not both! It may just be that Titans vary in size like many other Transformers. Did Devastator shrink? Sometimes artists draw a character at a different size intentionally. The cartoons and comics typically show this without explanation, leaving the audience to attribute it to advanced alien technology. Transformers Prime Scale Chart + Screenshots I made a comparison for all the characters in Prime so far and their scale/heights. Beast Wars likewise had an official scale guide, which appeared as a bonus on the DVD set of Season 2. His cab is 1/48 scale, but his trailer is closer in scale to the Autobot Cars, which fall more in the neighborhood of 1/35 to 1/40 scale-wise. The Seekers are about right (going by robot mode, anyway, as ever), but Grimlock's reissue is a little shorter than MP-10 Optimus, when he should be about a head taller. Devastator in the Season One scale guide was approximately 2.5 times the height of Optimus Prime, but by Season Two he was somewhat less than twice Prime's height. Anyone looking within the toyline for notions of a "correct" scale between the characters would be stymied by the multiple size classes and the lack of real-world scale references. Shockwave was a member of the scientist caste in the industrial city of Kaon.In a reversal of the usual order, he was swayed by the ambitions of the former mining caste member turned gladiator Megatron.Serving as Megatron's "pet mad scientist" and second-in-command, he saw to the fighter's armament during his rise to prominence, all the while fantasizing on the prospect of mass . Where would we keep it? Instead, he turns his attentions to rebuilding the Omega Lock. Master Blaster Without any height booster, Blackarachnia can interface well with these controls. Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Cookie Notice He's drawn small because he's a human-friendly character, and a junior member of the Autobots. As Optimus retrieves theAllSpark, Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons unite under Bumblebee and Predaking to face the Chaos Bringer in defense of their home. The disparity becomes even more obvious with Mini Vehicles such as Warpath (a tank) and Seaspray (a hovercraft), who should be many times their actual size. Scale in Transformers is screwed up beyond belief. Some versions of the Pretenders are shown to explicitly shrink when hiding in their human-sized outer shells. (And they were never gonna make a properly screen-accurate-scale Scavenger, though a Commander Class figure was in the works, but was canned, bummer.). Of particular note, Wheeljack's Turbo Racer is based on a Ferrari Testarossa, and the Action Master Jackpot figure (a new character created specifically for the Action Masters lineup) sports kibble that indicates he once used to transform into a Ferrari Testarossa himself! This could all be totally wrong and I still have no idea how tall characters like Brainstorm and Rodimus are EDIT: This is purely for dramatic effect. 5. Transformers Size Comparison ANIMATION 2021 Optimus PRIME Likewise, Defensor features a motorcycle and a helicopter as limbs that are inexplicably the same size. In Season 3, it was rerecorded with a background music and the "Beast Hunters" logo. Combiners are also often out-of-scale with other Transformers; a combiner with cars for legs and another car for its torso should be slightly less than three times as tall as a one-car Transformer, even when taking the alteration of their body parts into account, but they are routinely drawn as five to dozens of times taller than their comrades. In fact, they actually seem to increase their mass when changing from aerial vehicles into muscle cars. Transformers Alternate Mode Chart (All Michael Bay - YouTube Of the Maximals featured in the show, the tallest character, Silverbolt, is the shortest toy, while the diminutive Nightscream is a massive Ultra-class toy. Cassette characters such as Rumble's toys are roughly the same height as most Minibots, while in the show they are usually portrayed as human-sized. Many Transformers are portrayed in fiction as having alternate modes that are smaller than the real-life objects they are imitating. While the bug characters such as Waspinator and Inferno are obviously scaled-up, other characters are more subtly not quite the right size. However, since Diaclone toys were not part of the same line as Microman toys, scale issues arose. However, even here, there are problems. That said, the show is notuniversallyloved, and not just becauseBumblebee was better when he could speak. A Blast Off (Space Shuttle) toy in scale with the Alternators toys would be 1.6 meters (5.1 feet) long, while a Broadside (aircraft carrier) toy at that scale would be over 12 meters (40 feet)! Octane's original body transforms from a 20-meter (60-foot) tanker truck into a 65-meter (200-foot) jumbo jet. Size of G1 Transformers vary between cartoon episodes or comics. Originally, the intent was apparently to make the popular Optimus and Megatron characters available at lower price points than just the large and expensive "Leader" class, so that children with less money would not miss out, and perhaps persuading completist-minded collectors to buy multiple versions of one character. Terms like "Legends scale", "Deluxe scale", "Voyager scale", etc. Newcomer Alpha Bravo is also undersized if his windows are anything to go by. Transformers Prime RP Database Height Chart Members Search We are a literate, intermediate to advanced AU Transformers RPG Based off of the first season of TFP with dashes of other incarnations sprinkled here or there. Transformers Alternate Mode Chart (All Michael Bay Transformers and Bumblebee Movie) The Buzz 301K subscribers Subscribe 1.4M views 3 years ago #OptimusPrime #BumblebeeMovie #Transformers. ). The Generations update of Cybertron Metroplex in the Legacy toyline similarly accomplished broadly show accurate scaling with regular Deluxe and Voyager class figures by bumping him up a size class or three with a new Titan class toy. Since for the majority of his presence on the show he is a loyal servant of Megatron, this was likely intentionally fudged so that he could have scenes inside the Nemesis, which is also where one of his biggest and most plot-important fight scenes takes place. For example, Movie Jazz's Pontiac Solstice alternate mode is a tiny car, and any size class that includes both him and Bumblebee (a Chevrolet Camaro) will result in scale problems between the toys. However, despite being by far the shortest of the Maximals, Rattrap is still a monstrously huge rat, the size of a Labrador dog (indeed, the writers stated that Season 1 Rattrap was 5' (1.5 m) tall[3]). Transformers: The Headmasters scale charts: Shouki: 5 m Razorclaw: 5.5 m Mindwipe: 5.5 m Highbrow: 5.5 m Springer: 6 m Weirdwolf: 6 m Skullcruncher: 6 m Hardhead: 6 m Cerebros: 6 m Brainstorm: 6 m Ultra Magnus: ~7 m Cyclonus: 7 m Sixshot: 7 m Raiden: ~16 m Predaking: 16 m Dreamwave Generation One continuity: The Nemesis Length: 2.5 miles Conversely, the series notes, in robot mode, all that armor and structure being compressed into a smaller form makes that mode stronger and more durable for combat. Sometimes this is deliberate, allowing them to match their toy scale and/or be of a similar size to other characters; in other cases, it is essentially an artistic error. This concept is lampshaded in the credits of War for Cybertron, where Bumblebee pulls up, and the entire Autobot cast of the game step out of his passenger door, clown car style. Spotlight: Soundwave. TFA size and power chart by Trytix on DeviantArt Thus, Bumblebee comes up to Wheeljack's waist, which is show-accurate, but results in Bumblebee turning into a very small Volkswagen Beetle; were vehicle mode scale used, Bumblebee would actually be slightly larger. The final line in the trilogy, Kingdom introduced Beast Wars characters into the mix, which hoooo boy. The biggest case by far is Unicron. His brain module, for instance, is consistently depicted as being only a few times bigger than Windblade as opposed to the city block-sized machine it would "realistically" be. The vehicle modes were (supposedly) Cybertronian vehicles which also helped ignore vehicle-mode scale issues. This would repeat itself with the "Human Alliance" toys for Revenge of the Fallen: The cars/robots are all roughly the right size compared to each other (Skids and Mudflap are even smaller, squatter toys and come with sub-Scout-sized motorcycle and robots to make up for it), but their human drivers are all too small (amusingly, Frenzy seems to be about right). Definitely believe that Wheeljack is closer to their size, and Cliffjumper is as large, if not larger than Bumblebee. When fighting Bumblebee, there are a few quick frames that offer a nearly side by side comparison. I found this scale chart of the various heights of Megatron on Deviantart; credits to KaijuATTACK877. In the American and Japanese cartoons, all four were shown as massive robots capable of housing many normal-sized Transformers. Transformers: Primehas received widespread acclaim, even from outside of the Transformers fandom. This was first evident in the pre-Transformers days, with the various Diaclone mechs all coming with pilot figures that, if to scale with the cars, would probably be the size of hobbits. In one story, the Pretender Cloudburst exited his shell, transformed into jet mode, and then his shell (and Landmine) boarded him as a passenger. For more information, please see our That said, the Stunticon molds don't scale well with anyone else bar Groove, and Silverbolt remains tiny; seemingly the only character in-scale with his mold is maybe Sky Lynx. In the Aligned continuity, the Thirteenth Prime is better known as Optimus Prime, the current leader of the Autobots and protector of the universe. However, the term is not used, as one might assume, to refer to the size ratio between different characters and their surroundings, but to refer to size classes. Sizes Source: https://www.deviantart.com/hexalys/art/Transformers-Prime-Height-Chart-527803474 For example, the first wave of Classics Deluxes featured Autobots Bumblebee and Rodimus, two cars, as well as Decepticons Starscream, a modified F-15 Eagle fighter jet, and Astrotrain, a Triple Changer who turns into a bullet train locomotive and a modified NASA Space Shuttle orbiter, all roughly the same size in robot mode but obviously not the same scale in their alternate modes. The chart below displays the new prices. The Autobots learn of Project Predacon and race the Decepticons for the location of Predacon fossils, to prevent Shockwave from cloning more of the beasts. The most noticeable problem is Optimus Primal, who has an Ultra toy (the "level four" size, almost twice the size of the "level three" Mega next-largest Maximal toys), but is shorter than both Dinobot and Rhinox (both of whom are "level two" Deluxe sized toys). Location: Michigan, USA Likes: +9,642 I saw this chart on a weibo page. What do you think of the size of certain characters in the show? Combaticon (G1) - Transformers Wiki Within the fandom, the show quickly won fans over, an impressive feat for the chronological successor to the widely lovedTransformers Animated. Here's is an unoffical Height chart of the famous Robot in Disguise From left to right, Here are his alt. However, it's hard to begrudge Hasbro not offering us a Primus toy the size of an asteroid. The show's theme song and background music was composed by Brian Tyler. In their interactions with adult anthropoids, the Transformer characters seem between twice and three times their height. Clearly, the pitiful humans at Hasbro are so overwhelmed by the awesomeness of Cybertronian life forms that they can't get the scale right. Here is a list of said sizes. The same can be said for the Lamborghini Countach Breakdown, who should be the same size as Sunstreaker and Sideswipe, not significantly smaller. The Beast Machines' toyline was far worse in size discrepancies with the cartoon. Even if one character's a twenty-metre fighter jet and the other's a five-metre pickup truck. Multiple toy sizes are generally irrelevant to the fiction, though the Cybertron cartoon featured Starscream inflating to planetary size, presumably in response to the super-large "King Starscream" toy available at the time. A minority also lamented that the expensive animation budgeted the number of character models they could render, and thus led to a relatively small cast and an isolated setting. [4] Thus, Optimal Optimus is ungodly tall in his first appearance, later reduced to perhaps two times the height of the rest of the cast. His new Camaro is roughly the same size as past Camaro cars he was . Official sizes and heights | Transformers Universe MUX | Fandom (Admittedly the GT Sisters are non-human Cybertronians, despite appearances, but this definitely smacks of fiction working to explain the toyline's scale issue.). Many of the wheeled vehicles are close to 1:35 scale, although Deluxe Class Jazz and Classic Camaro Bumblebee are obviously not the same scale, as noted above. Even when toys with considerable size differences are sold in the same pack, combinations such as a Leader-sized Optimus Prime (which would be in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes) with the much smaller Legends Class versions of Bumblebee and Jazz or the large Ultimate Bumblebee toy with the much smaller Deluxe-sized toys of Scorponok (who should be roughly the same size as Bumblebee) and Brawl (who should be considerably larger than either of them) are fairly common. So either Fortress Maximus is supposed to tower over Scorponok, or Zarak grows in size during his transformation into Scorponok's head. Given that their limbs are mere cars and construction vehicles, this is patently absurd (Superion, by contrast, would be building-sized, given that his torso is a 100-seat jetliner). The "disguise" aspect of this was later explained by having Landmine and Cloudburst encounter giant, transformer-sized humanoids on an alien planet which made them appear to be of a "normal" scale. Notably, Optimus Prime gains an extra twelve feet when he wears a corpse. In terms of toys, the Studio Series line is designed to more-or-less avert these scale issues, as each figure is sized in relation to other toys, even in the same size class; Deluxe #18 Bumblebee is shorter than Deluxe Jazz and #01 Bumblebee, who are in turn shorter than Deluxe Ratchet and Lockdown. "Giant" characters such as Omega Supreme are, even aside from any size changing for transport purposes, clearly not in the same scale in toy form as they are depicted on screen. In Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, Metroplex is portrayed not so much as the city, but a part of the city; with one hand being large enough to carry Optimus or crush Megatron. Welcome to Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki. When the Decepticons resurface, the Autobots take three child witnesses,Jack Darby,Miko Nakadai, andRaf Esquivelunder their protection. Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Arato Kato, character animation for "Hard Knocks". Revenge of the Fallen had scale guides featured in the 25 years of Transformers feature for the DVD release which showed official heights for both the Autobots and the Decepticons. Robot mode Lockdown is pretty much the same size as Optimus, at most only a few feet shorter than him, even though Optimus is a massive Western Star Truck concept. Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion, Portfolio: Jennifer Hoffman - Transformers Prime Rigging, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. The following year, the Generation-1-based War for Cybertron Trilogy continued the robot-mode scale trend, with the opening series Siege roughly scaling characters according to the original cartoon's animation models. Scale when it comes to planets is so fraught it's painful. Consequently, if the powers that be release toys of two characters in the same line in the same size class, they're going to come out in the same size. Deluxe Class, at US$10. And, much like Human Alliance, the various human figures released alongside them are far too small - going by the scale charts, Spike, for instance, should come up to Optimus's knee, rather than the middle of his shin. Meanwhile, the beast Core toys do not adhere to any scale besides being smaller than the rest of the cast. Devastator in the Season One scale guide was approximately 2.5 times the height of Optimus Prime, but by Season Two he was somewhat less than twice Prime's height. For example, Optimus Prime is routinely shown as thoroughly gargantuan, several stories in height, and capable of cradling humans in his palm. A to-scale Starscream in robot mode could kick Bumblebee around like a soccer ball. Transformers Evolution Optimus Prime Size Chart - DeviantArt With the Human Alliance assortment, Hasbro have taken a different approach by trying to keep the vehicles in scale (roughly 1:24) and adding accessories and other characters that turn into motorcycles for smaller cars such as Jazz, Skids and Mudflap. Toys out of scale with others in the same line, Toys slightly out of scale with others in the same assortment, Intentional attempts at a consistent scale, Wait till you see the artist's rendition of a scale-accurate version, tiny (and correctly scaled) version of Scorponok, characters who traditionally don't have automobile alternate modes, giant, transformer-sized humanoids on an alien planet. Conversely, the Marvel Comics depict the Micromasters merely as a little smaller than the likes of Bumblebee or Cliffjumper. Numerous characters are explicitly shown to shrink or expand at various times. Much less common are instances of a Transformer turning into an overscaled real-world object. Transformers fiction often depicts characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. Comparing this shot with when he picks up Archibald Witwicky's glasses a few minutes later, it seems the glasses have lenses a foot (30cm) in diameter. Characters with alternate modes that are not meant to be replicas of real-world things (or at least, close enough while being legally-distinct from said things) are difficult to accurately scale, as they generally transform into futuristic or Cybertronian vehicles whose size we don't really know or, indeed, they don't transform into vehicles at all. Some fans interpret the many otherwise-unexplained scale issues above to all be the result of size changing, but this is debatable. Parents Need to Know. The series is linked to an extensive marketing line of toys, games, clothing, and accessories for kids. With this new body, Silas destroys his own organization and attempts to join the Decepticons, only to becomeKnock Out's new dissection study. Prime Arcee is about 15 feet tall if I recall correctly. Despite transforming into a Lamborghini Aventador (a smallish vehicle at less than four feet in height and fifteen feet in length), Lockdown unfolds into a massive robot mode that stands at least 24 feet tall. Autobot scale chart for The Transformers: The Movie Chart of planets seen in The Movie relative to Earth Season 3 scale for Rodimus, Predaking, Trypticon and Metroplex Unicron compared to Jupiter, Metroplex next to the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge from Hobby Japan Seasons 1 & 2 scales published in The Ark The Headmasters cartoon The Masterpiece line, from roughly MP-10 onward, has gone in the opposite direction, making heavy use of the in-fiction scale of the G1 cartoon - but only in robot modes. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. In IDW's 2005-2018 comics, Metroplex's size warrants further exploration. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Transformers Legends even acknowledges this by having Broadside becoming a gigantic Headmaster large enough to fight level with Grand Scourge, and piloting a larger Transtector who seems to be on a similar scale to most versions of Metroplex. Do you find it accurate? Scout Class, at US$8. 70 comments. The Deluxe Cheetor, on the other hand, was too small to match scales with most of the other toys (again, using the cartoon as a yardstick). Conversely, the Kmart exclusive Dark of the Moon "Autobot Daredevil Squad" multi-pack couples a redeco of the original Revenge of the Fallen version of Sam with a redeco of Revenge of the Fallen Deluxe Class Cannon Bumblebee, resulting in a large human with a small Chevrolet Camaro he couldn't possibly fit into even if the Bumblebee toy had its crude interior redesigned to house a driver. Some of these were published in the character model guides The Ark and The Ark II. Conversely, Bumblebee is sometimes shown only a few feet taller than an average human, while in reality he would be 35 m (10'15') tall (the Marvel comic actually states he's 15' tall Plight of the Bumblebee!). Most fans agree that one must either ignore it or accept it, lest they be tempted to explain these problems and in the process fanwank themselves into oblivion. Though jets are much larger than cars, they're drawn the same height so the battles appear fair (and also to make it easier to animate; blocking a shot where characters differ radically in height is difficult). Toys at the lowest price points usually include "mini" or "micro" in their name. share. This is a height chart of the Prime characters with my own OC added and a pair of non-canon characters, that are real in the overall continuity. NEW COLOR G1 Season 1-3 scale chart! - TFW2005 Size class | Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki | Fandom The Autobots and Decepticons' struggle becomes a competition for Cybertronian artifacts strewn across the planet, which turn out to have been placed there byAlpha Trion, who foresaw the Autobots coming to Earth. . Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Jose Lopez, Character Design, Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Yasuhiro Motoda, Character Animator. Meanwhile, the Autobots have to guard Jack, Miko, and Raf, three kids who've . Even worse, Hasbro Pulse refers to a figure's height measurements as "figure scale". I recall reading years ago that Bayverse Optimus stood at somewhere between 28' - 32' tall, and that Bayverse Megatron stood supposedly at 35' feet tall (according to magazine articles and TFWiki). It's not perfect but hey, what're you going to do? The Marvel Generation 1 comic sidestepped this issue by depicting Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok as merely "large-standard" characters. Sometimes, they are even out of scale in their own team; Bruticus's torso is an anti-aircraft truck, while one of his limbs is a Space Shuttle and another is a two-person offroad vehicle. Non-show characters such as Spinister used other media, namely IDW Publishing. The robot mode scaling is generally very consistent to the chosen source, but there are still a few oddities, particularly when dealing with older figures being reissued or redecoed after MP-10. For all of these reasons, it is usually considered one of the best Transformers cartoons. Outstanding Individual Achievement in Animation -Kirk Van Wormer, storyboard art for "Nemesis Prime". Between the two, Lockdown is about 21-22 feet. Transformers Prime Height Chart by Hexalys on DeviantArt Hasbro could have made Jazz smaller, but since the main limit for a size class is the weight of a toy, not its size (as long as it fits into the standardized packaging, that is), they decided that scale problems are more acceptable than selling a tiny Deluxe Class toy when there's still room in the budget for more plastic. Unfortunately, for practical reasons this limited the choice of altmodes. Other multiple-toy scale differences include intentionally simplified forms, such as the Fast Action Battlers, which simply make all the characters the same size, with no attempt at matching scales. Likewise, the Legends Class version of Revenge of the Fallen Arcee, a motorcycle, is more or less in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes. In another variation of this, Prime Predaking is a colossal monster in beast mode that even the upgraded Optimus Prime can barely look in the chest, but transforms into a beefy robot a head or two taller than Megatron. The animated segments featured in the television commercials for the toys generally play fast and loose with scale: One of them features Micromasters small enough for Action Master Optimus Prime to hold several of them (in alternate mode) in the palm of his hand (see the image to the left), which would mean the toys are supposed to be roughly life-sized, while others feature an entire Micromaster city that's small enough for Powermaster Optimus Prime to hold it in the palm of his hand, which would make the toys massively oversized!
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